SFP

motorfirebox

“…to nothing! Because nothing is going on. At all!”

Kid Chaos

“Bullshit, you didn’t convince me, maggot!”

Ryan

“I ask for a little bit of assurance that you’re just in here doing some real villain shit instead of out there doing some real villain shit.”

Sabriel

I wonder if he wants powers to go back in time and prevent himself from being a villain… and he figures it’s OK to do some villainous things in pursuit of his goal because success will wipe the slate clean. That’d be an interesting story.

dbmag9

Guys, it has literally been weeks since http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-99/ and still no-one seems to be routinely referring to Patrick as a Thought Pirate what is going on.

Insanenoodlyguy

It might be if he’s deciding what he is or isn’t about to tell her.

Pol Subanajouy

Go on…

Some guy

“…to making an actual, one-punch solution to some of the world’s major problems. You’re just going to college without even having an actual major. Stop trying to judge me, Alison. You’re simply not qualified.”

masterofbones

The weird thing is that I don’t see what her problem with this is. I mean sure, corporations are evil, but I don’t see her getting mad at every single CEO ever. A corporation trying to keep the intellectual property of a genius they contracted hardly seems unexpected, and certainly no more evil than anything else corporation-y.

How is this particularly villainous?

And yeah, Allison still acts like a “hero”(pretty firmly ingrained at this point). If something feels wrong to her, it must be evil. And that means punching time, not thinking cap time.
- Otakusensei
  
  Easy, Patrick’s a potential repeat offender super villain with the ability to instinctively navigate around any argument you could bring up before you do. He’s at least as dangerous as he was when he was wearing a mask; now that he’s not there’s zero evidence that he isn’t even more dangerous.
  
  Worst thing is she knows she can’t keep him in check, she has to hope and trust someone who knows exactly what he needs to say to get that trust.
  - masterofbones
    
    But her choice about which issue to stick on is fairly strange. This isn’t a “super-villain” behaviour, it is just a kind of scummy behaviour to be expected of executives. There isn’t really much likelihood that that particular action is going to cause a major negative effect.
    - Natalie Molnar
      
      It feels like a mix of ‘straw that broke the camel’s back’ and ‘I can’t deal with saving huge crowds of people anymore, that’s not fair to ask of anyone, but I can’t stop caring about and getting invested in individuals because I am a decent human being.’
    - masterofbones
      
      Sure, but being visibly enraged(which has lead to outbursts of violence in the past), and acting as if Patrick deserves her ire is a step over the line. Assuming Patrick isn’t just a hologram or protected in some other way(emotional teenager who can make holes in walls and is suffering from PTSD? I wouldn’t get within a hundred feet of a person like that), his life is in serious danger, just for acting like any other CEO.
      
      Alison knows only idle gossip about the situation, but she is furious right now. Sure she has PTSD, but she needs help with that. Her actions are more super-villainy than Patrick’s in this situation.
    - funnyasinhaha
      
      I think she just has a hunch and she’s following up on it – it doesn’t have to lead to anything but it could.
    - masterofbones
      
      But the rage doesn’t really fit with “hunch”. She is pretty much threatening him with a deadly weapon at this point. (seriously, she needs therapy STAT. PTSD is no laughing matter, even for normal humans)
- SirKaid
  
  It’s a long ingrained habit born in her formative years and positively reinforced for most of her adolescence. Is it really a surprise that it takes actual, conscious effort for her first reaction to someone being a dick to not be “punch it until there isn’t anything left to punch”?
  
  Plus, she actually knows the people involved. One of them is a close friend while the other is someone she respects. I know I’d be more pissed than usual if a good friend was the person being the face to a normally faceless corporate evil.
  - masterofbones
    
    >It’s a long ingrained habit born in her formative years and positively reinforced for most of her adolescence.
    
    Certainly. I tried to make it clear that I understood that. But her behaviour being *understandable* doesn’t make it *good*
    - Axel_Celosar
      
      And Patrick’s are good? For all we know, this whole thing has just been a huge act on his part as he never really gave up world-domination plans.
    - masterofbones
      
      Possibly, sure. But for all we know, Alison could actually be the leader of a secret evil organization. Going off of what we have seen and heard, he hasn’t done anything significantly wrong yet. And the issue Alison is pissed with is just a rational response for any company leader.
- motorfirebox
  
  Well, I mean, it’s literally villainous. It’s the direct product, and really the direct continuation of, Patrick’s activities as a supervillain. It’s well and good to say that superheroes can’t fix non-supervillain problems, but when there’s the possibility of a still-extant supervillain problem right in front of her…
  - masterofbones
    
    Well if we are going by that logic, so is the company itself, no matter what he does with it. And Alison is no longer a superhero. At this point she’s just a busybody who can force her way anywhere she chooses.
    
    And no, this is not a supervillain problem. Somebody made a contract that is very profitable for the company, and the company doesn’t want to give up that contract. Hell, I’d probably act the same way it has. I’m not giving away awesome profits for no reason.
    - motorfirebox
      
      Well, all superheroes are basically just busybodies who can force their way anywhere they choose.
      
      I’m not necessarily saying that this is something Alison has to pursue. But it makes sense for her to pursue it to a certain extent. Alison is the one who let “Menace” escape. To a large extent, what he does with his continued freedom is her responsibility. And as she points out, she’s extending a lot of trust to a guy—a former supervillain—who’s got a roomful of kidnapped scientists being guarded by biodynamics, y’know? She’s trusting that he’s doing these slightly shady things in pursuit of what they would both agree is the greater good.
      
      But she doesn’t see the greater good in keeping another good person—a person with, so far as Alison can see, great potential to change the world for the better—wrapped up in endless legal proceedings that keep that good person from fulfilling their potential. Yeah, Patrick can get some awesome profits out of that behavior. But if awesome profits are all Patrick’s after, why shouldn’t Alison cart him off to superjail like any other profit-driven supervillain?
- Classtoise
  
  CEOs break lots of laws, but none of them are supervillainous. Jerks? Sure. Assholes? Oh yeah. Creeps? Probably more than a few!
  
  But villainous? SUPER villainous? To the degree that they kill, maim, torture, or terrorize people for their own gain, openly and willingly preying on others? That’s much harder to prove. And even if they do, how many of them does she know personally have promised that they’ve stopped the villainy?
  
  With Patrick, she knows him quite well, and one of the things she picked up on is th speech. The supervillainous “You will not stop me when I AM SO CLOSE TO…” is a very villain-y thing to say.
  - masterofbones
    
    “What is this man accused of sir?”
    
    “he said something reminiscent of a supervillain, missing only the evil acts that go along with it”
    
    “Horrible! He must be executed at once!”

Markus

For a woman who gets mad at her employees and robots for not magically intuiting what she wants every second of every day, you’d think Lisa would be a bigger fan of Patrick.

Rod

To..? TO…?!!! Oh, COME ON!
*storms off, feverishly fidgeting until next issue*

TheGonzoMD .

Yeah, sorry. I’m rooting for the guy who isn’t playing chicken with Skynet.

I mean, it’s not that self aware AI is garunteed to lead to Terminator. But the way she’s doing it? Yeeeaah.

D. Schwartz

Letting them find their emotions leads to Terminators? Doubtful. Problems yes, world exterminating threats, no. Unless the plot demands it.
- TheGonzoMD .
  
  No, having a pile of AI’s that committed suicide or were otherwise destroyed is the problem. That’s some serious skeletons in the closet that Bradley will have to hide from the AI…
  
  Like, if you found out that your parents murdered everyone of the children born before because they weren’t happy with how they turned out how would you react?
  - Thrice
    
    Well, my reaction certainly wouldn’t be like how an AI would react, considering AI don’t have hormones, cultural values regarding suicide, or the same understanding of death.
    Let’s chill with the AI fear, considering that the eventual post-singularity AI will read your post (along with the rest of the internet), find you, and punish you for your insolence.
    I, for one, welcome our new digital overlords.
  - D. Schwartz
    
    Except you are making the assumption that a newborn digital and mechanical intelligence would share the same set of morals as a completely biological intelligence that has thousands of years to come to the set that we currently have and one that may change as time passes. While they may use that as a starting point, a digital intelligence will quickly evolve a new set of morality for it’s own kind if nothing else based on certain realities there. These would be recorded mind states, the ability to self modify, and a consciousness beyond our biological selves.
    
    Your fear is mainly based on old tropes of the machine as enemy based on early post industrial concerns of the unknown. I would suggest reading more thoughtful SF and actual examinations of AI to see the more nuanced view.

Elaine Lee

He’s not only experiencing Alison’s thoughts, but having his own emotional reactions to those unspoken thoughts. If he were completely without feelings towards Alison, he could probably be more subtle and manipulative. But in this scene he says something, he hears not only what she replies, but all the negative thoughts she’s holding back, he gets upset and reacts to that. Just like the rest of us humans react irrationally when our feelings are hurt. Remember: Most of don’t say the very worst thing we can think of to say to a person we’re arguing with. When we’re angry we may say the third or fourth worst thing. But Patrick hears the spoken words, as well as whatever horrible thoughts Alison is leaving unspoken. It’s upsetting. It’s throwing him off his game.

MiniPlane

to… To…? Aw hell naw. Patrick, what are you up to?????

masterofbones

Figuring out time travel! Which I just did!

StClair

I figure there are two things that could produce that reaction: either he’s just picked up that Moonshadow is right there in the room with them, or the theoretical synthesis has finished ahead of schedule and popped up a “Yes.” (And possibly, “This is how you do it…”)

Oren Leifer

No, just a “Yes” would not be enough to stop him. Patrick may have just gotten a “Yes, and it’s been done before”.
Classtoise

3. A very vivid mental pickup of what Alison wants to do to the smug bastard :p

But all honesty, I think it might be Moonshadow. This is how they make her clearly the villain instead of an uneasy champion of the downtrodden; She goes after someone who has never committed an act of violence against women specifically (supervillainy is gender equal!), but she targets him because he’s going against Lisa, and she doesn’t like that.

StClair

I think it’s genuine, and that he’s gotten a priority interrupt.

SomeGuy411

I have to say, that would be highly entertaining, albeight unlikely. Would sound something like this , right?

edit: Bah, can’t get it to link right without embedding

D. Schwartz

Even if you are a super smart telepath that doesn’t mean you can and will run your mouth.

Insanenoodlyguy

She’s not insane. But like all scientists of a certain bent, she’s quite mad.

Axel_Celosar

And Patrick isn’t?

KatherineMW

I agree that what Lisa is trying to do with AI is incredibly dangerous and she’s acting with utter disregard towards the risks (if you’re going to practice building AI, at least build it without a body and with no connection to the internet or any other interface, so that it’s incapable of harming itself or others).

But this is not reguar corporate competition on Patrick’s side. He knows that he used her inventions to kill people and that he’s now been doing everything possible, in the legal sphere, to prevent her from doing anything positive with her inventions. And yes, that IS villainous.

Opus the Poet

But that is a near guarantee that your AI will be insane within a short amount of time. Intelligence learns and grows from interacting with its environment, no ability to interact leads to an insanely frustrated AI.
- KatherineMW
  
  Once you’ve got an AI that seems to work, then put it in a (mainly soft, fabric-like, non-dangerous; maybe something like a stuffed animal that can move) body that allows it to interact with its environment. If it stays non-dangerous after a while in those circumstances, give it something more dynamic. But given that all her experiments immediately try to kill themselves or others, making them unable to do so is a good place to start until you get past that obstacle.
  - TheGonzoMD .
    
    At the very least, don’t make the robot body strong enough to rip it’s own damn arm off.

MrSing

Plot twist. Patrick has been high for this entire conversation and has just forgotten what they were talking about.
You can’t prove me wrong.

motorfirebox

Ah, yes, Bertrand Russell’s dank pot.
Classtoise

“Alison. I have a question for you.” “Don’t change the subj-” “Do you think paint feels pain when we peel it?”
Rich McGee

He really, really wants some nachos right now.
Interesting consideration, since he has trouble drowning out people’s mental noise, what does hanging around people who are high (especially on hallucinogens) do to him? Must be like being stuck in a room full of raving lunatics shouting at the top of their lungs, even if they’re calm physically.
dbmag9

He doesn’t need a memory of his own when he’s talking to people (who have normal memories); he can always just use their recap of the situation if he does forget.
zarawesome

He was talking to his reflection because he really thought someone was there.

Mechwarrior

You know, having Julie 84 give Alison a dressing-down over her cynicism would be kind of awesome.

Rich McGee

Funny, I don’t actually see Alison as being cynical at all. She’s pretty idealistic about a lot of things. More willing to threaten violence (even lethal violence) when pushed than Julie is, but their backgrounds are radically different. SFP’s supers are all first generation and were forced into action in their teens, while PS238’s main characters are in a setting with generations of heroes. Some of them have supers as parents, and all have had their powers since early childhood. Very different psychologies and social expectations involved there.

Rich McGee

I kind of wonder if Patrick’s obvious dislike of Lisa is due to her being closed off to him? Not that I don’t think he can read her thoughts, but her intellect functions on a plane that may make it impossible for him to translate what he reads in a useful manner. Patrick’s smart and has integrated a lot of knowledge from experts, but there’s no evidence that (despite having had Lisa on his payroll and presumably accessible to mind-reading for years) he’s able to duplicate her innovations. That suggests that her “spark” is something he can’t just learn and add to his body of knowledge.
If she’s relatively impenetrable to his telepathy, that must be maddening for him. And the AI/EI/machine intelligences she’s working on will probably also be immune to telepathy, assuming it works by interpreting biochemical processes.

Classtoise

Or her first order of business in the tech industry! Figure out how to scramble a mind reader. It explains why he suddenly went after her legally and legitimately; because he can’t use any of her thoughts against her.

Perlite

Seems like someone is slipping back into their super villainous tendencies. “I’ve moved beyond stealing someone else’s tech, now I simply make it so that she can never use it!”
I personally lean more towards Asimov’s view on AI, but the crazy, human-hating robot is so much more popular.

Ryan

Keep in mind that he doesn’t necessarily know ahead of time how she’s going to react to things, he can just read her reactions as they happen. Given time, he could probably root around in her mind and figure out how she would respond, just like he was rooting around in those scientists’ minds, but that’s not practical to do in real time during a conversation. Although it’s possible that this entire page was him stalling for time so he could do exactly that before actually answering Alison’s question.

danny in canada

“Not a mad scientist. Just a very upset engineer.” — Lois McMaster Bujold

Tom

Supervillains are just the people with the desire to upset the status quo.

Axel_Celosar

That’s just a PC/Villain’s excuse to justify general destruction/murders.

Cresneta

There have been at least a couple of famous scientists voice their major concerns about AI in the past year, so I gotta side with Patrick on the AI issue here. Even if AI don’t end up being hostile towards humans, they could essentially end up making humans obsolete as far as the job market is concerned which will be bad news if we don’t end up in a utopian society where no one has to work in order to have their basic needs met. Why hire someone when you can just buy a robot that does the job better and doesn’t need to sleep, take vacations, or anything like that? Talk about the death of the middle class.

Darkoneko Hellsing

…to ?

fairportfan

“…this close to … ummm … getting my head handed to me…?”

RobNiner

You sly dog, you almost caught me monologuing

Oren Leifer

It’s funny, the reason that Patrick and Lisa don’t like each other seems pretty obvious (to an outside observer). Patrick has all this knowledge of how exactly the human mind works and won’t share it with Lisa, who wants that knowledge to make a functional AI, while Lisa has a degree of understanding about creating minds that Patrick doesn’t have / understand and refuses to share it with him. Also because Lisa’s immune to Patrick’s power because of her own biodynamic anomaly, or just because her mind is that twisty, and Patrick hate people/things he can’t predict.

Thrice

I think Alison is more upset that Patrick is starting to act/sound like the same people who perpetuate abusive corporate policies and who grind down the members of the society they’re supposed to be beholden to. I see that Alison’s social justice sense has taken on a little more of Lisa’s ‘proletariat first’ kind of attitude.

ElishevaRina

Ohh, shucks…I just got sucked into this comic thing, thinking that it was written a while ago and I’ll be able to read straight till the end… Now I really need to know how the story ends! I stayed up all night reading the whole thing! Am I really going to have to wait a year or a few months to read the rest of the story?!

David

They put out a new page every Tuesday and Friday.

masterofbones

>nothing wrong with his overt actions if they adhere to the law, and nothing wrong with his more covert actions if no one is knowingly harmed

So it is super-villainous to only do actions that are legal and non-harmful? That’s an interesting definition. I’d call that pretty heroic actually.

Otakusensei

There’s a reason he has to abduct a cabal of scientists from their hotel rooms, read their minds in secret and then return them before morning. While they aren’t physically harmed by the action, and aren’t mentally harmed due to their being unaware of the situation, he isn’t considering their own wishes in the situation. Instead he’s pretending that their knowledge, not just on the subject he’s interested in, is his to take. Just because there isn’t a law against being a mind pirate doesn’t mean its right. His going about things in such a secretive manner just shows he knows how wrong his actions are. It’s villainous, and because he’s using his powers and tremendous resources to do it you could call it super villainous.
- masterofbones
  
  1. They are his employees. Anything they discover is his intellectual property. Being able to use that fact more effectively than most is not a problem.
  
  2. Yeah, an admitted mindreader leading a company once headed by an evil mindreader doesn’t sound suspicious at all. OF COURSE HE IS BEING SECRETIVE ABOUT IT.
  
  3. You know none of the details of the situation. They may(I would say that it is fairly likely) have consented to this. You are making assumptions with little foundation.
  
  4. If it doesn’t harm anyone, it helps people, and it isn’t against the law, I’d say that is pretty firmly in the “good” category. I’m not sure where you are seeing the bad here.
  - Otakusensei
    
    1. You’re skipping right past any issues of personal ethics. Yes, my employer is entitled to my work and expertise while I’m in their service, but if I leave I take my expertise with me. If anything, this is a situation of Patrick breaching the normal boundaries of employer/employee ethics. Maybe they agreed to this when they signed on, but I doubt it. Who would include that kind of agreement, and who would consent to sign it?
    
    2. And he was that evil mind reader. He justified his methods then the same way he’s justifying them now. The difference between being a super villain or not is how you treat those legal and ethical lines that define societal interactions.
    
    3. Dude. Consent generally doesn’t (read; ever) include you being abducted from and returned to your bed none the wiser afterward. My foundations are based in the nature of consent:
    
    Consent – verb – give permission for something to happen.
    
    If Patrick’s got some sort of agreement where they all signed off on these shenanigans, why the secrecy toward consenting parties?
    
    4. The ends don’t always justify the means. Outside of consent to allow Patrick to plunder their minds what he’s doing to them is inherently wrong. It harms them because taking action on their work for himself could hurt their careers.
    
    It all points to Patrick falling back into his super villain ways.
    - masterofbones
      
      1. Is it unethical to watch an employee work and to learn from them by doing so? He is just doing an upgraded version of that. And there is no need for consent forms for that.
      
      2. I’d say it is more how much damage you cause. You aren’t much of a supervillain if you never hurt anyone.
      
      3. Unless you agree to a contract where you will go to a location to be secretly tested.
      
      4. Mind reading is inherently wrong? Please explain, because that sounds absurd to me. Is using a study made by a scientist in order to become a competitor scientist also inherently wrong? Cause that is about what you are suggesting.
    - Otakusensei
      
      1. Are you seriously conflating mind piracy with observation and study? Patrick isn’t going on a ride along while they do some science, he’s plundering their minds. At the very least he’s invading their personal space. We’ve already seen that he’s constantly reading everything around him all the time, do you think he’s respecting their right to privacy? Also, have you ever had your supervisor at work look over what you are doing? Imagine if he could read your mind while he did that. Yes, you would need express consent for that.
      
      2. Patrick has hurt people. His present methods are less overt, but they are similar.
      
      3. Who would? Scientists at the top of their field? Why? The games make no sense outside a clearly nefarious agenda. They explain themselves.
      
      4. Yes, mind reading is inherently evil. The problem is that almost all instances of mind reading in any medium are done without the express consent of the target. Mr. Spock gets a pass cause he has to touch your face and you have to be still for a few minutes.
      
      Patrick is one of the worst offenders because for every bigot he scans the personal details of, he’s had to have caught the intimate personal thoughts of hundreds of others. Everyone he comes into contact with, Allison included. He’s said himself that he’s not interested in stopping it; he’s not burdened by the intrusion, he revels in it. He uses his ability to violate the most private and intimate secrets of everyone around him, which he then uses for his own personal gain.
      
      Now you might argue that his personal gain becomes a benefit to all mankind. Perhaps. But you have to trust him for that, and I would submit that you cannot honestly trust a mind reader. Not if he can read you. Our position on the outside of the story gives us an opportunity to measure his trustworthiness without fear of manipulation, but our perspective is limited to Allison’s for the most part, and that hinders our objectivity.
      
      In short; I like him, but I can’t trust him because he’s comfortable crossing the line when it suits him.
    - masterofbones
      
      >Yes, mind reading is inherently evil.
      
      Well this conversation is pretty much over then. We disagree on a fundamental level.
    - Otakusensei
      
      Ok, let me refine that a bit. The kind of wide spectrum constant scanning that Patrick is up to is evil because it leaves no room for the privacy of others. Do you disagree with that?
    - masterofbones
      
      Despite it being entirely outside his control, causing no harm, and actively increasing the knowledge of the world?
    - danima
      
      “1. Is it unethical to watch an employee work and to learn from them by doing so? He is just doing an upgraded version of that. And there is no need for consent forms for that.”
      
      There is absolutely a need to get IP agreements from your employees when hired, even under non-telepathic circumstances. If you don’t, no one wins but the patent lawyers.
      
      Considering that telephone conversations on work phones are (at least in my jurisdiction) considered private and not subject to employer monitoring, I’m not seeing how mindreading should considered any less of an intrusion.
    - masterofbones
      
      If the conversation is happening right beside the person listening, there are no such restrictions. The mindreader merely has heightened senses and a good memory.

Some guy

It’s not actually a dramatic pause on Patrick’s part. Alison started thinking about Lisa’s “art” during Patrick’s rant, and now Patrick is going to turn to Alison and say “How DARE you defend anyone that would commission such nonsense! That’s it, Mega-Girl! Enemies forever! Menace is back!” before pressing a button that changes the symbol and lighting schemes back to Evil mode, and his Menace helmet lowers down onto his head from a crane on the ceiling.

StClair

I’m absolutely serious. If one considers the authority of Pharaoh as rightful, then Moses is someone who shows up and starts causing widespread suffering, destruction, and eventually death through supernatural means – all with the ultimate aim of overturning the status quo of Egyptian society and/or absconding with a lot of valuable property (the Hebrew slaves).

Ian Osmond

Jeez. What named character in the strip DOESN’T fit that description?

Buster, I guess, but he’s dead.

Johan

Oh man, you almost got him to talk Alison. Batman would be proud.
Now frown a little bit more, that usually does the trick XD

Rens

“To… What am I /saying/ !?”

SomeGuy411

True, I don’t think he usually condones killing, or there would be a lot less supervillains for him to deal with, wouldn’t there?

Rich McGee

The PS238 version of the Revenant is considerably softer on that than the earlier short story version from that old anthology, but yes, a super killing normals (even criminal normals that have escaped legal penalties when tried) would be a huge red flag for him. He started out as more of a “keep supers under control” kind of guy than a conventional superhero, but PS238 has downplayed that side of things somewhat. Also made him less willing to use lethal force himself, at least on camera – but you have to wonder if all those villains he’s always beating on during Tyler’s phone calls make it to the police or an unmarked grave.

impishacid

what was that he just said about destroying capitalism, again? 😛

motorfirebox

So, here’s why I don’t fully trust Patrick right now and why I think Alison is right to grill him on the particular issue of using is evil lawyer powers on Lisa Bradley/Paladin: where’s the greater good?

Patrick isn’t some random CEO. He’s a former supervillain who has done lots of supervillain stuff, resulting in one death that we know about for sure and probably more deaths that we can fairly assume he caused (indirectly or otherwise). The reason he gets to walk around free and run his company—the reason Alison is letting him do that instead of putting him in jail for the crimes she knows he’s committed—is that she believes him when he says he’s trying to make the world a better place.

All the creepy kidnapping-mindreading stuff is, Alison is willing to believe, in pursuit of that. Time travel? Sounds kinda supervillain-y when it’s a ‘former’ supervillain researching it (via kidnapping!), but the assumption is that he’s got some kind of one-punch solution to at least some of the world’s problems in mind (like maybe going back and saving all those one-punch-solution-anomaly biodynamics).

But keeping Lisa Bradley tied up in legal proceedings? Where’s the greater good? “Corporate bottom line” doesn’t cut it as a reason—not for Patrick. He doesn’t get to use the bottom line as a shield for any unethical action he takes, because he’s already known to be guilty of all kinds of crimes. His actions, as CEO and as a biodynamic individual, have to contribute to the greater good. Maybe not every moment of every day (if his company doesn’t make money, he won’t have a company for long), but it’s a fair test for any major action he undertakes. That’s what he’s doing in lieu of serving jail time.

Kid Chaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vHOR8lzTg

Aaliyah Velasquez

He looks like my 4th grade teacher before she sneezed
Aaliyah Velasquez

Has any one seen the ANIME Inuyasha
- Kid Chaos
  
  “SIT!”

masterofbones

>you have to see

Apparently not

Otakusensei

Alright, I can tell when someone isn’t taking a discussion seriously anymore. Thanks for the back and forth.