Ah yeah, lot of people called it. I’m still uncertain as to what exactly that changed with her powers and what the new situation is, but yeah, it makes sense it would be for Feral.

Seconded, Feral.

You know, I read a story once where a person with an abnormal immune system underwent experiments to enhance it. I forget the particulars, but in enhancing it, it became this sort of death-cloud which destroyed everything around the protagonist; because immune systems destroy foreign invaders and everything was foreign. In the end, the guy committed suicide because no one could get within a one kilometre radius, because otherwise his immune system would kill them. It wasn’t a particularly nice story.

JFC Alison, GO TO BED. Do not pass go, do not collect $25M, GET SOME SLEEP.

Now kiss….

Whole lot of nothing on this page: most people appear to have accurately predicted that the target was going to be Feral, anyway. So… kudos to y’all, I guess. I still don’t feel like Feral being the target proves that Alison’s plan is going to work, or that her actions were justified, but I am totally not here for another four-day round of “Nuh-uh!” “Yeah-huh!”

I’m strongly tempted to opt out of further discussion, until we (finally) find out what the actual plan is. If Tara doesn’t give Alison a verbal smackdown, I’m probably going to consider this to be a wasted three weeks, regardless.

Nope, it doesn’t change anything, because the very point is that there is no amount of circumstances that justifies immoral behavior sometimes.

I admit I was scared the reason might be even less understanvle with what Al was saying with Max into a tableslam chokehold, and it was silly of me to distrust the webcomic which has never really given me any reason to, and the larger part of me knew there had to be *something*.

But still, like Tylikcat is saying. Sleep on it? Involve Brad’s flowery speech and it’s wondrous argumentation? Try to convince Max a little longer than five minutes? There had to be something of an effort to attempt to avoid resorting to utter tyranny. And the utmost dire words she told him in the end.

And Feral *will* not be okay with it.

“can we refer to Max’s ability as ‘Max-imisation’?”

Seconded. Call for a vote?

Leukemia is the usual cancer treated by bone-marrow transplant.
Can’t recall if we ever got an exact diagnosis from Alison’s father and not awake enough yet to go archive diving.

FINALLY. Feral GETS it. Feral knows what questions to ask!! Great, good page, I’ll see you all on Tuesday….

Analgesics, probably straight morphine? Pointless during the actual surgery, but it’s gotta be better than nothing during recovery.

Pancreas.
But cancers aren’t usually something you can cure with a transplant.

Wait… did Max powered her regen ability so much she created a homunculus of herself that organs will be farmed from instead? That’d be…. creepy… and so morally grey…

I’m sorry, “morally grey”? You think that, if Alison forced Max to use his powers to augment Feral’s powers so much that it created a clone of Feral, and then conscripted that clone to an eternity of organ harvesting, just to free Feral!Prime, who willingly volunteered for the sacrifice… that that would merely qualify as morally gray?!

Emotionally, depends on whether she feels she’s redeemed herself yet.

My fear is that Allison used his ‘power boosting’ abilities to make Ferals regeneration so absolute and strong that they are no longer able to operate on her at all. They already mentioned back in the original arc that they had to build special surgical equipment and what not just to get the organs out to begin with.

So what if she powered up Feral to the point where her body is to strong to make donation possible? That will be a nightmare that I foresee happening.

“Folks who were firmly in the oh God Alison what have you done camp: does this change your viewpoint at all?”
Not even a little. This makes it worse since Alison clearly did this to help out a personal friend, not for the purpose of helping humanity like she was implying on previous pages. Even if this was for the greater good, what she did was deplorable, and it turns out that wasn’t even the case.

Did the doctors ever mention that they had to wait between surgeries for Feral to regenerate the lost organs?
Her new level-up may have sped things up so the doctors can do the whole procedure in much less time. Thus allowing Feral to have a life too new.

Btw, do we know if max’s levelup is permanent or temporary?

I’m… kind of far from being libertarian.
Unless “against any and all breach of consent” qualifies in which case wow is the bar low.

Last time they spoke, she was pretty annoyed (albeit emotionally compromised in all sorts of ways) that Alison would try to convince her to stop doing what she was doing. Her decision was set and it seems to me that it mattered a lot to her to have made that decision, fencing off against the “smart” people of the world she was always bitter with.

And now it seems Alison just came by saying “I made your decision moot”. The same Alison who thought her decision didn’t matter because it doesn’t change anything for the rest of the world.
Again, unless she really did save the world with one punch earlier tonight, what’s the difference between doing what she did to Max and to her (that is, acting without telling her) and preventing her to go through with the operations just by force?

…When you make it this specific, this…

I don’t know if what Allison did is morally right. I’m not going to go into a lengthy discussion of ethics…I just know…I couldn’t tell her what she was doing is wrong. Especially with the magnitude of Feral’s action.

You protect the ones you love from torture and pain, and that is just it.

Aaaaah if only there wasn’t such a thing a complete and utter imbalance of power between humans so that when the dominant group does it using this very justification while oppressing others, life would be so sweet

Slipperly Slope isn’t always a fallacy though. She severealy compromised her code, which to our knowledge she has only done once before (incidentally, this also concerned Feral. Might get easier each time. Or at least more tempting.

I get it: Allison used Max to clone Tara. Clever.

I applaud her choice. It’ll come with a cost, but she chose well. If this leads us into the ethics of cloning I’m game.

Here’s an axiom for discussion: axioms are useless. No behavior is automatic or absolute. No slope is so slippery that you _must_ slide down. Every choice is a gamble because no choice can be made from a perspective of perfect understanding.

And the hardest choice is to accept that. Allison will be wrong and possibly in enormous ways. But this also might not be one of them and the question you must face is: do you want the best outcome for whatever the present problem is, or do you just want to be _right_?

“countless lives” sure. This was an entirely personal and selfish motivation. She assaulted, abused and lied to someone for personal reasons to perform an action on another person without their consent.

Remember Chapter 4 where Alison went back home because something bad had happened, and she had a bunch of flashbacks to her dog so everyone thought that the bad thing would have been the dog dying? Only it turned out that the real thing was that her dad had been diagnosed with cancer? The author is quite willing to throw curveballs at the audience by telling them less than the amount of information than Alison has.

Also, most of the speculation is that Max has permanently boosted Feral’s powers, either to the point where her organs can perpetually regenerate on their own so she’s no longer needed as a donor or to the point where she heals too quickly to be cut open. Both suggest a monumental amount of power on Max’s part- it’s pretty much unheard of for a character with a power-boosting ability to have it apply permanently unless they’re a god or godlike being. So that seems less likely to me.

The story has definitely taken an interesting turn, but the danger is that I have lost all sympathy for Alison. I am guessing this is deliberate on the writer’s behalf. Forms of rape have be a theme in this comic. From the villain with mind control powers to the drunk girl at the party. Now we have Alison forcing her will onto someone else. I am sure Max has been made unlikeable partly to see if we (the audienace) would fall into line 😉

If this was one of my games and a player had done what Alison had done, Max would get promoted to lead antagonist. He has everything the role needs. Wealth and power. He has so many options too. He could go public, reveal his power. He could even claim her recent abilities were because of him. He could start hiring thugs with powers. He could start hiring heroes with powers. Many don’t seem to liek Alison. Then he could boost them all. It would be a foolish Alison who just turned up at Max’s again.

Whereas I react extremely badly to most opiates, and that just means I get prescribed the really good stuff post surgery. (Which I also react badly to. Though Tapentadol makes me less sick than most, and from a purely medicinal chemistry standpoint is one of the most entertaining molecules I’ve come across.) Seriously, if I had any interest in dealing – as opposed to being highly motivated not to – I’d could have had a great little starter kit.

We still don’t know what happened–it’s possible whatever did happen will result in a ton more organs available than what Feral was able to provide.

Yes? But then again it’s in the comfort and safety of my imagination, I can disregard any and all canon I so wish. And I mean isn’t that kind of the point anyway, since you’re pairing up people that aren’t canonically paired up anyway? Why acknowledge some past events if you choose to disregard the present ones? I mean, when you can disregard it all at your leisure.

I suggest transplanting yourself your own organs to have access to these memories you apparently don’t already have by virtue of being the person making them…?

He told Al a bunch of nonsense which didn’t add up and that she called out. The mug was thrown not because he was a villain doing villainous things but because he had spent the evening trying to convince her of that for… reasons and she was irate at being kept in the dark on said reasons (and also being treated as a moron for thinking he could get away with his lies)

Let me tell you my opinion about the ongoing US presidential election

Works only when you believe it does, which, I’d wager, her experience wouldn’t encourage her to. “Oh sweet, pills with a suspicious taste of inoffensive sugar! I’m sure this’ll help me deal with the constant pain despite the fact that the most intense drugs on Earth have literally no effect on me”

Just because the world is already irreparably lost does not mean we should damage it even further. Not that you meant that of course, I believe you do want to make the world a better place, as most humans do.
But it is my sincere belief that you can’t force people to do good and that it is not our place to do so. Since we are all fallible and predicting the consequences of our actions or the cost is in nearly all human affairs next to impossible. The best we can do is stopping others from violating the rights of other people.
And every time someone takes it upon themselves to force or punish someone for things that are out of their control to bring about a greater good we kid ourselves into thinking that we can make that call. And it works. it works great right up to the point where it doesn’t. The inevitable point where we make a mistake. And than we end up with the world we have today.

Exactly my point.

I’m offended by your offense, and by your confusion! Doubly offended!

When I read that I really wondered why they didn’t just put him in a suit like Hazmat (another mutant with similar powers). Then I realized it was because of what wolverine said – if he lived and it got out that a mutant simply becoming a mutant involuntarily killed so many people without even knowing it at the time, it would be a public relation fiasco. He was killed for public relations. Very dark issue.

Feral did say that if Alison found a one-punch solution to the world’s problems, she’d stop donating and do Alison’s thing instead. So I wouldn’t really say this is Alison just butting in. This is something they’ve talked about. I am looking forward to finding out what the Plan was and what Feral thinks of it, though.

I think it’s unlikely that something like that would be sprung on us without foreshadowing. It’d make for a pretty awkward reveal page.

I would say that this is a likely circumstance. Allison seemed to be in utter horror as to Feral wanting to give SOO much of herself. I think that she would simply see Feral’s death as a release. To have Feral’s power reduced to the point of death and then Amped back up only to start a cycle of organ donations without anesthesia again would not be in character for Allison.

Allison will not limit herself to saving one person. She still, despite everything, wants to save the world. She only quit when she realized that wasn’t possible. But something will again compel her to act. The Tyrant doesn’t start with the kingdom, they conquer the village first.

no, the long list takes up a whole container ship. this pallet is just the short list. note I didn’t say how small the font was….

On the other hand, once everyone in the world got an organ then no one would ever die, and we could start a completely different Doctor Who arc.

Max’s brief and in private humiliation, temporary fear and extremely limited pain.

Of course, he’ll be stewing on this forever like the utterly self-absorbed privileged jerkass he’s been since birth who can’t conceive of the notion of anything mattering more than his precious principle of “If I can’t have what I want, to hell with all of you”, but by his own philosophy, that’s his problem, not Alison’s.